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Edited to remove comments regarding Vanya's heart looking like a candy cardboard heart box for Valentine's. Added that Ecclesiast when you hand him the Bleeding heart (the one you looted from Vanya). He may drop the heart, emptying it as he slips and slides trying to recover it with you. What he may then hand you back will be Vanya's Lifeless Heart

I have some concerns regarding the guide seeing as it presents a specific way to do the quest for the Ice Golem pattern. The guide suggests collecting both Vanya's beating heart and the Yomi Grimoire page before starting the quest, but if you want to save the hassle of collecting 6 insignias to spawn Vanya, then you can also spawn her by using the letter you get from Cama after the whole dialogue with the Yomi Grimoire page and The Book of Insignificant Rituals. To me, this saves some time since I have both Pen Sanc key and recall beacons to move me around between quest locations.

I'd suggest updating the guide to reflect both approaches. If necessary I can write the text for it if nobody else will.

Good advice, edited it this way ; also did the Omni version !

When I last updated this guide I was aware of this method. I was also aware that it was most likely left out or removed due to the amount of bug outs that happened doing it.

II left out because in the past the second method was buggy when you went to hand in the instructions/blueprint and if it went that way, you couldnt get a finished IG quest. This was still bugging on the Omni side as of 2017.

It was a conscious exclusion.

Should we let the guide as written now or come back to previous version ?
Or may be mitigate by adding a warning (1 = safe solution vs 2 = possibly buggy solution) ?

PS : i've did the mitigation with warning, hoping it solves the issue.

My experience is with clan side, and I have done the quest quite a lot over the years and never experienced problems spawning Unredeemed Vanya with letter+blueprint.

However, you have a very short time to hand the Acolyte (clan side) either the insignias or letter+pattern to spawn Unredeemed Vanya. If you give the wrong combination of items (only letter for example), or start a conversation, you risk the Acolyte despawning on you.

You are right that the quest bugs out easily if you don't do things in the right order though. Talking to the right NPCs at the wrong time may cause the mission to bug out and fail.

I suggest adding a disclaimer that there have been reports of bugs for omni side if using the letter+blueprint option to spawn Redeemed Cama.

Tbh, i think there's enough warning so people can choose their favorite option.

Could be - must admit I just read the discussion and not the updated guide.

Thanks for fixing it

The guide says that Cama spawns in the 75% room without mentioning that this room is the north room opposite the one with the other NPCs for this quest.

Added this for precision, thanks.

Due to additional and recent questions in game regarding this guide, the numerous changes, and some missing or confusing info, this guide has been revamped. Both options to obtain Vanya's heart have been included with additional details.

Pics added
Notes added and clarified
Items listed and added
tabled items
will change the Omni version to match