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Means spoke on FC irc TODAY

Post by Windguaerd » Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:07 am

The following is a slightly edited (random logins/logouts removed) log ot today's #anarchyonline irc channel at about 10:41AM EST when Means dropped by. Please be aware this was NOT an official conversation between the Game Director and the Community as a whole, he does drop by on occasion to reach out to players and keep in touch. I will take the liberty to highlight some interesting things Means said.

[10:41] <Means> Hello all :)
[10:42] <ShadowGod> !
[10:42] <Sephiroth> :o
[10:42] * Sephiroth offers Means some cheese cake
[10:42] <Means> ya ya...I know I'm not here often enough :P
[10:43] <Khalem> :P
[10:43] <ShadowGod> hes afraid of his adoring fans
[10:43] <Khalem> Yes, we bite
[10:43] * Hacre blinks
[10:44] <Hacre> damn Means is here
[10:44] * ShadowGod blanks Hacre
[10:44] <Hacre> Hi Means
[10:44] <Hacre> get off me SG :P
[10:44] <Means> My wife was making fun of me (and by extension all of you) yesterday
[10:44] <ShadowGod> but i want a pony ride!
[10:44] <Sephiroth> tell her she's just jealous!
[10:45] <ShadowGod> to think.. if only we got enno in here....
[10:45] <ShadowGod> then the new engine would never come out!
[10:45] <Means> she said I don't have to worry about being running into any AO players when we were downtown because we were "outside" :P
[10:45] <Hacre> haha
[10:46] <Hacre> I'd resent that, if I still played :P
[10:46] <Means> I thought that was pretty good :P
[10:46] <Means> Did you quit for real this time?
[10:46] <ShadowGod> well.. now that you managed to ninja some old aoc servers... see if you can ninja some of their advertising budget =P
[10:46] <Hacre> no kidding
[10:46] <Hacre> I'd come back if RK1 had some population going on
[10:46] <ShadowGod> in that case, get rid of rk1 quick!
[10:46] <Hacre> :/
[10:47] <Means> Advertising isn't the problem...there are 100's of new players every day...they jsut don't stay
[10:47] <ShadowGod> why arent they staying?
[10:47] <Hacre> graphics probably
[10:47] <Hacre> or noob island still needing some work
[10:47] <Sephiroth> Hacre and I will re-make the noob island for free to have players love it more from the get-go, Means!
[10:47] <Khalem> Means: You realize that the website is driving people away that would otherwise want to try the game?
[10:47] <ShadowGod> well.. i've written plenty of times about how n00b isle was confusing as hell to me
[10:47] <Hacre> Can't be spam, as I understand it that's largely under control
[10:47] <Hacre> Khalem: how so?
[10:48] <Sephiroth> aren't you still on noob island, SG?
[10:48] <Sephiroth> oooh
[10:48] <Hacre> rofl Sephiroth burrrrrrrn
[10:48] <ShadowGod> yes... i hope to get off n00b isle sometime next week
[10:48] <Hacre> I heard he's still stuck in arrival hall
[10:48] <Sephiroth> hahahaha
[10:48] <Hacre> which btw, needs to come back
[10:48] <Khalem> If you look at it from a non experienced MMORPGers perspective, there is very little information and the screenshots are ancient for the most part. You get very little idea of what the game is about
[10:48] <Sephiroth> yes. Why with the taking away arrival hall?
[10:49] <ShadowGod> sil said the arrival hall confused more people than not
[10:49] <Khalem> And what little information there is is almost hidden away. I think Windguaerd did a fairly nice writeup on it on the forums
[10:49] <Hacre> arrival hall wasn't confusing at all I dunno wtf Sil was on about
[10:49] <ShadowGod> wind did a huge nit picking of the site =P
[10:49] <Hacre> when I first started AO, arrival hall was great
[10:49] <Means> Khalem: someone is working on the site now
[10:49] <Khalem> I kinda liked the arrival hall more than anything else when i first started AO :P
[10:49] <Sephiroth> yes. Means, I was on the AO forums during some class, people started asking and stuff, so I had them check out the home page
[10:49] <Hacre> you got a lot of back story
[10:49] <Sephiroth> but there's no info there about any classes or nothing
[10:49] <Hacre> info on the factions
[10:49] <Hacre> etc
[10:49] <ShadowGod> professions, seph!
[10:49] <ShadowGod> not classes!
[10:49] <Khalem> Means: Sounds good :) I've had too many friends not bother even downloading and testing out AO simply because the website didn't convince them, rather confuse em
[10:50] <Sephiroth> there really needs to be a sort of link that's "Hi, I'm new. TELL ME STUFF"
[10:50] <Sephiroth> I mean, the timeline's pretty daunting if you manage to stumble onto that
[10:50] <Khalem> Arrival hall > Greeters
[10:50] <Khalem> Greeters scare people :P
[10:50] <Sephiroth> haha
[10:50] <ShadowGod> i ran away from a greeter when i first started too
[10:51] <Hacre> Also people will stay if RK XP isn't incredibly tedious compared to SL XP and leveling from ~90 to 150 is addressed. All well and good having a 150-200 playfield in Ado, but being stuck grinding the same butt ugly rocks from ~50 to god knows when is crap
[10:51] <Means> Khalem: The site doesnt really say much about the gameplay
[10:51] <Sephiroth> it should
[10:51] <Means> needs improvement
[10:51] <Windguaerd> MEANS!
[10:51] <Khalem> Means: Yeah, and thats a bad thing(tm) imho for a site which should aim to want people to play the game
[10:52] <Khalem> lol... Windguaerd woke up
[10:52] <ShadowGod> oh no
[10:52] <Sephiroth> yup. I found it didn't once everyone was interested at the uni
[10:52] <ShadowGod> run means run!
[10:52] <Technogen> RUN! I agree
[10:52] <Khalem> Means: Btw, any ETA on People of Rubi Ka working again?
[10:52] <Sephiroth> many were like "hmm, I mean, I'd check it out, but I dunno what to check out" :o
[10:52] * Technogen goes back to sleeping in his chair
[10:52] <Means> Khalem: isnt it working now?
[10:52] <Technogen> Means why didnt you go to E3?
[10:52] <Khalem> No
[10:52] <Windguaerd> Means have you checked http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showth ... p?t=553078
[10:52] <Khalem> Hasnt been updated since the server move
[10:53] <Means> Technogen: the company feels it is safer to keep me away from the public :P
[10:53] <Technogen> For us or you?
[10:53] <Means> Technogen: I am going to Dragoncon this year
[10:53] <ShadowGod> good thing we're not the public
[10:53] <Hacre> Scheol still needs attention too.
[10:53] <Technogen> Yeah, I'll come down most likely
[10:53] <Means> it ALL needs attention
[10:53] <ShadowGod> and wait... e3 is still around?
[10:53] <Sephiroth> no, it's renamed "Sequel bulivard"
[10:53] <Khalem> Means needs a team of 150 people to do AO2 ;)
[10:53] <ShadowGod> hmm
[10:54] <Technogen> Shadow, PSS stop :P it wasnt funny the 1st time you said it
[10:54] <Khalem> Or a team of 150 people just to do all he actually wants to do
[10:54] <ShadowGod> ao2 is aoc
[10:54] <Khalem> ShadowGod: I must have missed it... no fixers
[10:54] <Sephiroth> remake AO with the AoC engine!
[10:54] <Hacre> AO2 is AO+new engine+leveling addressed+Scheol being populated :P
[10:54] <Sephiroth> that sounds like an easy thing to do!
[10:54] <Means> hehe
[10:54] <Hacre> with some advertising and people coming and staying :P
[10:54] <Sephiroth> scheol should never be populated
[10:54] <Sephiroth> not as is :o
[10:54] <Hacre> shut up Scheol is awesome
[10:54] <ShadowGod> OH GAWD ITS BEEN OPPED
[10:55] <Sephiroth> dude
[10:55] <Sephiroth> I've never shouted so much at the gam
[10:55] <Sephiroth> game*
[10:55] <Technogen> Kintaii, where the wargle is your game?!
[10:55] <Hacre> Then you're an idiot, Scheol is awesome.
[10:55] <Windguaerd> I think for them, and so he doesn't lose his job by tell people they are stupid when they ask a stupid question, honesty is great for us gamers, not so great for public relations a good portion of the time, PR is about spinning what's good and misdirecting what is not so good
[10:55] <Means> if we improve people staying...then I would want to spend more money on ads...right now it doesnt make much sense as the ads don't make much of a difference
[10:55] <Sephiroth> I did see Scheol from some interesting views though
[10:55] <Hacre> well apart from all the bugged brink mobs
[10:55] <Kintaii> Techno: It's over ----------------------------------> there.
[10:55] <Technogen> :(
[10:55] <Hacre> yeah, it doesn't matter how many people you bring in if they don't decide to stay
[10:55] <Kintaii> Yeah, tell me about it. ><
[10:55] <Sephiroth> Means, I think noob island rework would be a huuge contributer
[10:55] <Hacre> graphics, leveling grind.
[10:55] <Hacre> and what seph just said
[10:56] <Khalem> Scheol is one of the best looking playfields ingame. It's a shame that it's so plagued by issues in addition to a garden key quest that no one bothers to do because it's hellish
[10:56] <Hacre> Means: why was the new playfield designed for 150-200, as opposed to say, 90+ ish?
[10:56] <Sephiroth> just hire me to redesign the whole thing over summer!
[10:56] <ShadowGod> bah! someone at the office needs me
[10:56] <Technogen> Means, you should take Schole and use it as an experment to test LoX style monsters in normal game play. (hard hit low HP ok exp)
[10:56] <Means> 150-200 is a leveling hole right now...not much there
[10:56] <Means> at least 90ish has Crypt of Home

[10:57] <Khalem> 150-200 is a nasty hole yeah
[10:57] <Means> but 90ish needs work too
[10:57] <Hacre> only froobs level there
[10:57] <Khalem> But seriously though, 150-200.... revamp scheol :P
[10:57] <Hacre> at least 150-200 you've got Ado/pen/inf
[10:57] <Technogen> Hacre its because payers are tards :P
[10:57] <Means> which is a problem...that is a good dungeon
[10:57] <Technogen> CoH is a good leveling spot
[10:57] <Windguaerd> I guess I will have to go for Means throat here....
[10:57] <Technogen> RK is a GREAT leveling spot, but people only level in SL because they are tard
[10:57] * Technogen slaps Windguaerd around a bit with a large trout
[10:58] <Hacre> for leveling 150-200 I think you'd have been better off sorting out Ado mission locations/rewards (as suggested on forums) and pen mission rewards (as suggested on forums)
[10:58] <Hacre> Technogen: no, because the XP you get from SL is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the XP you get on RK.
[10:58] <Technogen> Yeah you could fix ado just by shifting all the missions above grounds means.
[10:58] <Technogen> Not at that levle Hacre
[10:58] <Sephiroth> Technogen, they should just drain the place :o
[10:58] <Windguaerd> Means, will the AO website be UPDATED to be actually a decent MMO website, or will it remain the way it out, looking someone who does not care or even know the game mantains it
[10:58] <Hacre> sure it is. I get more XP/hour in a 2 man team from ely hecks than I do in RK missions
[10:58] <Technogen> 80 to around 140 you level on RK faster then SL
[10:58] <Hacre> and RK mob XP is pathetic
[10:59] <Hacre> for 80-140 you need a team of 6 pulling 200+ missions
[10:59] <Technogen> Windguaerd I told you what he said last time, he's already got someone on the website
[10:59] <Khalem> Windguaerd: [16:49] <Means> Khalem: someone is working on the site now
[10:59] <Sephiroth> ah, yes. That brings me back to the days of leveling in Broken Shores
[10:59] <Technogen> Fact, means gets in here and tomuch talk happens too fast :P
[11:00] * Hacre thinks Means is regretting logging onto IRC lol
[11:00] <Means> Windeguaerd: we are taking control of the site away from marketing today.
[11:00] <Windguaerd> Ok, sorry Tech, no offense but when it comes to FC, I've learned NEVER to take anything from another source except FC itself
[11:00] <Hacre> well he said it himself Windguaerd
[11:00] <Windguaerd> Ok, now I'm 100% sure, no offense guys, really.
[11:00] <Technogen> Hacre, you're looking at it it wrong. Its a Time vs XP ratio, on RK the time per mob is lower so you gain more exp over time.
[11:00] <Khalem> Well... if you read userfriendly... you would know that having marketing in control of anything can only be bad :P
[11:00] <Hacre> I could have sworn I said I get better XP over time
[11:01] <Hacre> yes, yes I did
[11:01] * Sephiroth pets Hacre
[11:01] <Sephiroth> it's ok
[11:01] <Windguaerd> And Means, if you had anything to do with the change, I love you. Just don't tell my wife, she be jeleaous, fly to Oslo and kill you. THen we'll need another GD
[11:01] * Sephiroth looks at Windguaerd and takes a couple of steps back
[11:02] <Hacre> well anyway that's just my opinion. Ado->Pen->Inf is an easy fix, move Ado missions above ground and sort out the rewards, fix Pen missions rewards and that's a-ok. 90-150ish was the hole that needed some sore looking at
[11:02] <Technogen> ANYways
[11:02] <Hacre> Fixing some Scheol issues would go a looooooooooong way towards fixing the 90-150 hole, AND populate an otherwise dead zone
[11:03] <Hacre> which is a shame, because Scheol is (excuse my french) fucking beautiful.
[11:03] <Sephiroth> it is.
[11:03] <Sephiroth> even when you're INSIDE the mountain
[11:03] <ShadowGod> mission accomplished!
[11:03] <Sephiroth> <.<
[11:03] <Hacre> dude
[11:03] <Windguaerd> HEY HEY! Manly love! like gaming brothers love, none of that Queer Eye stuff
[11:03] <Hacre> Halls of Scheol
[11:03] <Hacre> that beating heart
[11:03] <ShadowGod> they are cleaning out the office fridge today
[11:03] <Hacre> O M G
[11:03] <ShadowGod> and i commanded it well
[11:03] <Sephiroth> yeah, standing BEHIND some random place INSIDE a rock, it still looks great
[11:03] <Hacre> First thing I'll be doing when the new engine hits, is going to Scheol
[11:04] <Hacre> it has everything, great views, great textures, height and depth
[11:04] <Sephiroth> I think Scheol could be fixed with some signs pointing to paths and invisible walls!
[11:04] <Hacre> if the geometry issues get fixed and the mob placements, it'd be fantastic
[11:04] <Hacre> and a good place to level
[11:04] <Hacre> the 90-150 hole is as big as it is, is because people don't go to Scheol for the above reasons
[11:05] <ShadowGod> what about the 191-220 hole!?
[11:05] <Technogen> I think ado could be fixed easily by moving the missions close to the statues and above ground, that would also fix the leveling hole there
[11:05] <Hacre> go to Inferno
[11:05] <Hacre> agreed Tech
[11:05] <ShadowGod> inferno is scarey
[11:05] <Sephiroth> it involves that SG has to get boots
[11:05] <Hacre> This has all been said on the forums though and instead we got another 150ish playfield :/
[11:05] <Windguaerd> First thing when the engine hits is WE as a Community should run the most intense, insane player-run/made campaign advertisement so that the geniuses at FC Marketing quit in shame, or get fired when the company sees we can get better results, heh.
[11:05] <Technogen> WELL that does make sense :P
[11:05] <Technogen> Because everyone is complaining that there's nothing to do at that level :P
[11:06] <ShadowGod> we? i'm not a sales person!
[11:06] <Hacre> Technogen: BECAUSE ADO MISSIONS AND PEN MISSIONS ARE BROKEN
[11:06] <Hacre> if they weren't, the hole wouldn't be there
[11:06] <Technogen> how are Pen missions broken?
[11:06] <Hacre> crap reward vs risk
[11:06] <Technogen> sounds to me that more like Inf missions are broken
[11:06] <Hacre> you get more XP out of an equivalent level inf mission than you do pen mission on hard
[11:06] <Windguaerd> Hey Tech, trust me, we got plenty of talent in the community to create banners, videos, even music videos, spoof commercials, etc.
[11:07] <Hacre> not at all Technogen, Inf missions reduce the leveling to 220 grind, which given how top heavy AO now is (stuff you have to do once you hit 220), makes perfect sense.
[11:07] <Windguaerd> Wow has a ton of spoof commercials from the retarded "celebrity" ads for WoW
[11:07] <Technogen> Yeah win, but the problem with that is copyrite
[11:07] <Hacre> yeah FC needs to steal Mr T and Bill Shatner from fucking blizzard :P
[11:07] <Technogen> how do you know a player sumbited something that is theirs and not stolen
[11:08] <Windguaerd> Yeah, but we can make spoof commercials of AO making fun of it's PAST
[11:08] <ShadowGod> "tired of being a wizard? come be an Anarchist!"
[11:08] <ShadowGod> heh
[11:08] <Means> Mr.T and Shatner are not "AO" enough
[11:09] <Technogen> Yes they are, they have geek cred
[11:09] <ShadowGod> shater might of been
[11:09] <ShadowGod> shatner even
[11:09] <ShadowGod> i know... brent spiner!
[11:09] <Technogen> THERE!
[11:09] <Technogen> That's perfect
[11:09] <Windguaerd> Also we can come up with creative, nerdy, trendy, hip, modern, old skool, any type of commercial if we wanted to
[11:10] <Technogen> Well, we could do it fine, but ALL content has to be from within AO, no 3rd party models or images
[11:10] <Windguaerd> Who has not seen the player-made video with the Beast being rushed by a ton of players which made that scene look EPIC
[11:10] <Hacre> get Patrick Stewart
[11:10] <Hacre> he's epic geek cred
[11:10] <Technogen> Since the content is from within AO, fc already owens the rights to it, so there would be no legal problems for Means to deal with.
[11:11] <Means> I would want Steven Hawking for sure.
[11:11] <Hacre> hell yeah
[11:11] <Technogen> HEHE!
[11:11] <ShadowGod> hawkings in a mech....
[11:11] <Technogen> "In the future, I kick majors heck ass yo."
[11:11] <Means> saying "You can't perk me bitches!" in that automated voice
[11:11] <ShadowGod> he'd totally pwn Mr T's elf or whatever
[11:11] <Aythem> what AO mob is shortened to DD ?
[11:11] <Hacre> "This. Is. How. I. Would. Like. The. U-Nee-Verse. To. Be."
[11:11] <Technogen> HAHAHAH
[11:12] <ShadowGod> DD?
[11:12] <Hacre> "You. Can. Not. Perk. Me. Bit-ches."
[11:12] <Windguaerd> Also, I think impersonators are not quite illegal as long as you don't say the name. All we need is a black dude with a mohawk, fake gold chains to claim to be an Atrox!
[11:12] <ShadowGod> The Wench of Rome Red?
[11:12] <Hacre> Impersonators aren't illegal.
[11:12] <Aythem> Yes, I think it's DD. Or DM?
[11:12] <Aythem> It's a sub-level 100 mob
[11:12] <Hacre> I do a great Sean Connery btw if you want a voice over for that lol
[11:12] <Windguaerd> And NOBODY can sue FC, if all the stuff is "FAN MADE" =P
[11:13] <ShadowGod> sub level 100...
[11:13] <ShadowGod> you'd think i would know this
[11:13] <Hacre> given that you're still that level, yeah
[11:13] <Sephiroth> it's not like SG ever fights anything
[11:14] <Aythem> I'll probably remember later
[11:14] * Aythem is now known as Aythem|Home
[11:14] <Aythem|Home> thanks anyway :)
[11:14] <ShadowGod> =/
[11:14] <Sephiroth> DL!
[11:15] <ShadowGod> unless its being confused with the Damage Dealer of a team...
[11:15] <Windguaerd> Hmm, I think I will make a new thread about a marketing plan for the new engine which the Community can do as a whole, I know we got a lot of talent in the community
[11:15] <Sephiroth> the community will do an ad?
[11:16] <Sephiroth> "Hi. I'm in the Anarchist Anonymous and I'm an anarchist. Online."
[11:16] <ShadowGod> the community will do... err.. nvm
[11:16] <Technogen> Web based banners and such would be perfect
[11:16] <Technogen> think of those old "Play for free" banners but made by players
[11:16] <ShadowGod> make one of those virus ads
[11:16] <ShadowGod> that spread like ebola
[11:16] <Sephiroth> "PLAY AO TODAY. IT ENLARGES YOUR"..ok.
[11:17] <ShadowGod> when i think "old banners" i think the old Be an Anarchist
[11:19] <ShadowGod> "Daria Marie Walzer".... is listed as a "mid level" mob...
[11:19] <ShadowGod> wonder if that was it
[11:22] <Windguaerd> the old AO banners were "be an anarchist" or focused on the clan vs omni conflict which right now is a joke
[11:22] <Hacre> indeed.
[11:22] <Hacre> Sil's epic fail during LE has seriously imbalanced Clan vs Omni numbers
[11:22] <Hacre> just look at RK1.
[11:22] <Windguaerd> So there would have to be different angles to appeal to former players to consider returning, and people who never played AO to give it a spin
[11:23] <Technogen> It would be awesome that with the engine upgrade means could retain some art teams so the world could get changed every few months.
[11:23] <Hacre> I know a lot of RK1 players that would come back, if only that imbalance was addressed
[11:24] <Technogen> That's it...
[11:24] <Technogen> Means? you wake?
[11:24] <Windguaerd> Well, obviously Means and the team can't fix all at once, but so far they have dont a LOT of work to prove they are indeed trying hard to balance the game, fix issues and continue adding content so we dont get bored in the meanwhile
[11:24] <ShadowGod> we need a new conflict... something to rid rubika of neutrals....
[11:24] <Windguaerd> *done
[11:24] <Technogen> OK I'm going to type up a wall of text, I'll post it on the forums
[11:24] <Hacre> true wind, but they can fix profession balance all they want, it won't help if there aren't people around to actually fight
[11:25] <Windguaerd> Drop a link, usually your posts are a good read Tech
[11:25] <ShadowGod> tech is a n00b, dont listen to him!
[11:25] <Hacre> I logged in the other day to muck about, ran into 2 Traders Omni side and it was no longer fun. This is not a good thing for a game and this needs to be addressed.
[11:25] <Technogen> I have an idea for the this year's Bday, it's big and would get a lot of players back (in theory) atleast for a short while.
[11:26] <Windguaerd> Well my thinking is, don't heavily advertise and waste efforts if the game will not be good enough for people who are returning or trying it to consider staying
[11:27] <Technogen> Basic idea is this, for the month leading up to the birthday party do the old 30 day free play to old players thing. Then on the day of the Birthday, level all tower fields on all the servers. POP no more tower fields and players would have to have a free for all in an attempt to gain them back.
[11:27] <ShadowGod> aoc doesnt matter
[11:28] <Windguaerd> It's an example of FC's constant problem
[11:28] <ShadowGod> aoc wasnt a "FC" problem per se
[11:28] <Technogen> Could even spawn say some high level Xan at the 150+ fields
[11:31] <Technogen> bad idea eh?
[11:31] <Windguaerd> Free play, good idea, blowing up all the tower sites across all servers, another good idea IF there was a balance profession fix before that, make it an even fight.... however I got a feeling the high level orgs will bitch about that.
[11:31] <Technogen> Meh, they can get back their fields
[11:31] <Technogen> and they would know about it before hand some
[11:32] <Technogen> there could be an intercepted Xan communication
[11:32] <Windguaerd> Problem is that a lot of the high level fields rarely exchange hands I think, some even have towers of players who quit AO still
[11:32] <Technogen> And you could add the new element to tower fights of the 3rd party fighting for towers (high level xan)
[11:32] <kaliman> go attack them then ;/
[11:33] * Windguaerd is now known as Windguaerd|ZzZ
[11:33] <Windguaerd|ZzZ> Well I have not slept all night, and now I'm sleepy at 11:30AM
[11:33] <tentacles> at the suggestion that he might actually do something, he goes to sleep
[11:33] <tentacles> why am i not surprised
[11:33] <Technogen> lol
[11:34] <Windguaerd|ZzZ> A night of indie films, spain and south american films and 6 anime episodes
[11:35] <Windguaerd|ZzZ> Search for my posts in the forums Tent, you will see my walls of text of suggestions and ideas
[11:35] <tentacles> yes
[11:35] <tentacles> the forums is someplace i want to be
[11:35] <Windguaerd|ZzZ> Adios, bbl I still need to do research later today
[11:36] <Means> sorry...multiple people at my desk
[11:36] * Windguaerd|ZzZ goes to sleep, dreaming of the new rendering engine
[11:36] <tentacles> it's all right if they were chicks!
[11:36] * Windguaerd|ZzZ shoots everyone around Means so he can have his desk to his own, then goes back to sleep
[11:37] <Means> unlikely :P
[11:38] <tentacles> david carradine died today :(
[11:38] <Technogen> who?
[11:38] <tentacles> guess he ain't gonna wander the earth no more
[11:39] <Hacre> David Carradine was the dude from Kung Fu
[11:39] <Technogen> OHHH him ok my bad
[11:40] <Technogen> http://gizmodo.com/5278719/conans-new-b ... s-familiar
[11:50] <Technogen> Notum Wars - Wrath of the Xan
[11:51] <Technogen> a small mini-expansion if you already have Notum Wars. It will let you gain access to new xan calls Towers and Tower weapons.
[11:52] <Hacre> Wrath of Xan
[11:52] <Hacre> XAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!111111
[11:52] <Technogen> Well, thanks for pulling off the shatner angle
[11:52] <Ashly> Xan is sum guy at funcom wearing a mask
[11:52] <Technogen> God I hate this keyboard but it'll be another day until my old one drys out :(
[11:56] <Technogen> http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showth ... ost5530873
[11:56] <Technogen> I'd type more but I really hate this keyboard...
[11:57] <Technogen> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/lo ... ternet.jpg :(((
[12:02] <Eponyx> get a new one
[12:03] <Technogen> nah the other one is about done drying I'm going to use a hair dryer on it in a min
[12:03] <Technogen> I spilt a drink on it and shorted it out so I had to run it though my dishwasher to fix it
[12:04] <Eponyx> Well make sure you ton't keep the dryer to close so it start to melt.
[12:04] <Technogen> yeah I know
[12:05] <Means> got to run guys...catch you next time

So there you have it.
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Post by Snakebite » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:02 am

David Carradine is dead...! :(
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Post by Uragon » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:59 am

Hmmm, the Crypt of Home being a good levelling spot... he spends too much time on Test Live! Maybe if they properly level locked the place. Oh, and what Snake said!

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Post by copperneedle » Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:47 pm

[10:55] <Means> if we improve people staying...then I would want to spend more money on ads...right now it doesnt make much sense as the ads don't make much of a difference

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[11:00] <Means> Windeguaerd: we are taking control of the site away from marketing today.

From my life experience, things charged to a person with a job that could be deemed not to matter much fairly often take no pride in the work they do and sometimes provide lackluster results. Perhaps marketing not mattering much is the key issue with the website?

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Post by Snakebite » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:51 pm

copperneedle wrote:[10:55] <Means> if we improve people staying...then I would want to spend more money on ads...right now it doesnt make much sense as the ads don't make much of a difference

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[11:00] <Means> Windeguaerd: we are taking control of the site away from marketing today.

From my life experience, things charged to a person with a job that could be deemed not to matter much fairly often take no pride in the work they do and sometimes provide lackluster results. Perhaps marketing not mattering much is the key issue with the website?
Yeah, I'd noticed that bit too, but was too struck on the David Carradine thing...
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Post by Windguaerd » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:40 pm

Well, considering that I posted in the official forums in the Game Suggestion a post in extreme detail taking apart then entire site and practically asking them to beat their Marketing department with a baseball bat...

You can see the thread here: http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showth ... p?t=553078

I went from the layout color theme down to the inclusion of Flash, a fansite kit, updated information about all expansions/booster packs and newer screenshots.

In other words I took my sniper rifle and shot the current website (and their marketing people) right in between the eyes.
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